MP calls for action over 65% rise in fly-tipping in Somerset (From Burnham and Highbridge Weekly News)

This is classic Tory thinking. Make it more difficult for responsible people to dispose of rubbish, then scratch their clueless heads when flytipping increases. They genuinely do not have the first idea and are incapable of thinking things through. Cause and effect does not compute with these people.

You don't need a degree in economics or politics to at least partially remedy the situation:- restore the recycling facility hours and drop charges, particularly for domestic users. Also enforce trade user regulation as, on a number of visits to the Chard facility, it is obvious that 'white van man' is, with the apparent blessing of his mates working on the site, dumping what is obviously trade waste in the domestic area. The cost to the Council of fly-tipping must outweigh any saving made by these restrictions on opening hours.

Perhaps Tessa Munt should give a lesson to the council. Twice I have reported fly tippers with pictures and vehicle registration only to be told how can they prove the rubbish they were tipping belonged to them.Just go through the bags Im sure they would find eveidence and then fine the people.I know some black bags were removed from the Market site in Bath Road by the council and after going through them the council found they had come from an address in Burnham on Sea.

MINIME2 wrote:
Perhaps Tessa Munt should give a lesson to the council. Twice I have reported fly tippers with pictures and vehicle registration only to be told how can they prove the rubbish they were tipping belonged to them.Just go through the bags Im sure they would find eveidence and then fine the people.I know some black bags were removed from the Market site in Bath Road by the council and after going through them the council found they had come from an address in Burnham on Sea.

Tessa Munt is in no position, to criticise our Local Services.! This MP should get her own Personal / Political House in order. Extremely High Expenses Claim, Ex District Councillors /Paid Westminster Researchers, leaving Politics we hear, " Going into Banking" !, I thought he was appearing in the Highbridge and Burnham Pantomime, He 's BEhind u, oh No he's not, Oooooh Yes He Is..!
Regards Blue -Owl

David Mclean wrote:
This is classic Tory thinking. Make it more difficult for responsible people to dispose of rubbish, then scratch their clueless heads when flytipping increases. They genuinely do not have the first idea and are incapable of thinking things through. Cause and effect does not compute with these people.

Oh and suppose you think the last bunch of a*******s we had (Labour) were fantastic do you? Well at least this lot can do their sums and work out who left the country bankrupt.

Blue Owl wrote:

MINIME2 wrote:
Perhaps Tessa Munt should give a lesson to the council. Twice I have reported fly tippers with pictures and vehicle registration only to be told how can they prove the rubbish they were tipping belonged to them.Just go through the bags Im sure they would find eveidence and then fine the people.I know some black bags were removed from the Market site in Bath Road by the council and after going through them the council found they had come from an address in Burnham on Sea.

Tessa Munt is in no position, to criticise our Local Services.! This MP should get her own Personal / Political House in order. Extremely High Expenses Claim, Ex District Councillors /Paid Westminster Researchers, leaving Politics we hear, " Going into Banking" !, I thought he was appearing in the Highbridge and Burnham Pantomime, He 's BEhind u, oh No he's not, Oooooh Yes He Is..!
Regards Blue -Owl

Tessa Munt has spoken out quite rightly about fly tipping being on the increase in Somerset.Why on earth you would wish to criticise her for this I cannot imagine,other than trying to score cheap party points.The increase in fly tipping has been brought about by SCC's short sighted policy on recycling centres.Tessa Munt asked for time in parliament for this,what was Ian Liddell Grainger doing by not supporting her?

It is not just fly-tipping that is a problem. Littering, even on a small scale, is a major problem around our Bridgwater neighborhoods. The sad thing is it can be seen outside our schools, created by the students, possibly even staff, indicating that "Community" is not a value being taught. There is no doubt it is not taught or practiced in many homes any longer. We can solve this though without any Government action.....which will probably never happen anyway.....just get involved, when you see someone drop their trash tell them to pick it up....and never drop any yourself, no matter how small.

Your Honour, please speak up for the Police to be given power to prosecute known criminals. Many of them are caufght red-handed and then simply released with no charges ever brought. Some are guilty of extrremely serious crimes. Never mind fly-tipping. Wouldn"t you agreee with all this Daddy-O, looks like you want to flee, why is that?. The activities of the local arsonists starting to worry you?

FreeSpeech? wrote:

David Mclean wrote:
This is classic Tory thinking. Make it more difficult for responsible people to dispose of rubbish, then scratch their clueless heads when flytipping increases. They genuinely do not have the first idea and are incapable of thinking things through. Cause and effect does not compute with these people.

Oh and suppose you think the last bunch of a*******s we had (Labour) were fantastic do you? Well at least this lot can do their sums and work out who left the country bankrupt.

This country is not bankrupt.We are members of the G7,this makes us one of the seven richest countries in the world.In my view our present financial state was brought about by a lax FSA,greedy bankers and share holder apathy.Whether you agree with this or not our finances will not be improved by an increase in fly tipping,brought about by badly thought through SCC economies.

I doubt that there's a politician in the land who's totally 'in it' just to help govern the country.....they all seek ways and means to line their pockets - legally and otherwise. And for the pension and perks - nice job if you can get it
But back to fly-tipping......
The situation is comparable with buses, oddly enough. Once there were buses everywhere, many of which actually didn't make a profit, (i.e, cost money to run) So they cut them back - and increased prices too, to try to make more profit.
So now, we have a much reduced, expensive bus service (and this applies to the trains too, but nationally), that people prefer not to use.
Instead they bring their own cars into towns, thereby clogging the roads and causing other problems......road wear, accidents, queues, etc.

It's a standard response to anything 'government run or owned', that if it isn't making money, then cut it back, without any apparent thought for the consequence.
And that applies to Labour; Con/LibDem and other governing bodies.....
As for prosecuting offenders - what's the use? The judges would do no more than slap their wrists.

awayswing wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

MINIME2 wrote:
Perhaps Tessa Munt should give a lesson to the council. Twice I have reported fly tippers with pictures and vehicle registration only to be told how can they prove the rubbish they were tipping belonged to them.Just go through the bags Im sure they would find eveidence and then fine the people.I know some black bags were removed from the Market site in Bath Road by the council and after going through them the council found they had come from an address in Burnham on Sea.

Tessa Munt is in no position, to criticise our Local Services.! This MP should get her own Personal / Political House in order. Extremely High Expenses Claim, Ex District Councillors /Paid Westminster Researchers, leaving Politics we hear, " Going into Banking" !, I thought he was appearing in the Highbridge and Burnham Pantomime, He 's BEhind u, oh No he's not, Oooooh Yes He Is..!
Regards Blue -Owl

Tessa Munt has spoken out quite rightly about fly tipping being on the increase in Somerset.Why on earth you would wish to criticise her for this I cannot imagine,other than trying to score cheap party points.The increase in fly tipping has been brought about by SCC's short sighted policy on recycling centres.Tessa Munt asked for time in parliament for this,what was Ian Liddell Grainger doing by not supporting her?

What Tessa Munt, conveniently forgets,is that it was her Previous Lib/ Dem Group, in Control of Somerset CC. When they initiated SW1 which was supposed to save money, not cost Service loses, this is why the present SCC Conservative Group, have to try and Address the Total Mess that they inherited.....
The reason ! I made the Comments I did was not to Score Political Points, but to highlight her So-Called Expenses, which are being looked at !
Back to Clearing up the Financial Mess, left by incompetent Liberals, it's was better when they , sat on the Fence undecided....
I note in one of the Contributors Forum Posts, that it was the Bankers that have caused, all this Countries Economic Woes, The True Culprit's were Messr's Blair & Brown, with their spend spend spend, borrow borrow Borrow, sell our Countries Gold Reserves, to pay the Interest on the Borrowing, as the note left in the Treasury, by the Chief Treasury Boss,
" The Cupboard is Bare". The Conservatives, left Blair. Balanced Economy when Labour took Office.in 10 -11 Downing St. How fortunate the Bankers were not Controlled, by the Regulators then.
Now we the Big Bad Tories have to clear up the Financial Mess, and Labour, have the Gaul to Advise us what to do.....No Thank You Mr Milliband, One final thought, Does anyone remember which Ex Lab MP ,now a Euro File, was put in charge of getting to grips with the EU Budget, only ever once signed off, by the Auditors for one year only, so he had 5 yrs to do the Task, managed to get his Wife Glynnis,Daughter, Son in law the whole Blxxdy Family on the EU Gravy Boat, First Class Travel, Flats in Brussels, £150.000 plus Expenses each per year. So, with this incompetence, is it any wonder, that my views are " In Europe , NOT ConTrolled By Europe " as was first Proposed in the 1970's as to our participation in Europe.
So, with little financial, margins to work within SCC , & SDC. That is why Services are having to be Prioritised, some said, Buses, were always plentiful, running all over the Town and District, yes, mostly Empty, following 2 /3 others. Is it a wonder, that their had to be cuts.
I Said at the time of the last General Election that it will be 10 years b4 we as a Country are out of the Mess we are in...... What do I know, nothing !!
Devils-Advocate

Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

Blue Owl wrote:
Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

I think I have seen you in Panto ? Carrying Idle Jack down through the high street on his throne. Sadly unlike panto which is an annual event Idle Jack only seems to appear every for years or so when there are Magic Beans to be gained !

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:
Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

I think I have seen you in Panto ? Carrying Idle Jack down through the high street on his throne. Sadly unlike panto which is an annual event Idle Jack only seems to appear every for years or so when there are Magic Beans to be gained !

Yes, It twer I, Guilty as Charged, and proud to be a" Conservative" , I agree Iain could be seen more on the ground, but with such a large Rural area to be MP for, I can understand why some people say " where is he"
Well I can assure you he is "Behind You & Us in this District. He will never be a 'Tom King ' Now Lord King. But, even as a District Cllr, you cannot please everyone, as a Chef, at Cellophane many years ago, catering for the Staff and Workers we also could'nt please all, But they soon realised, when Grandmet outside Caterers took over, What they had!!!
Regards Blue-Owl

Blue Owl ILG is too busy looking after his farming friends to bother with us town folk who help pay his exspenses. I sent him an email in August 2012 the response was you should receive a reply as quickly as possible .How quick would that be ? im still waiting. He pops up when it suits him never mind the rest of us. He is probably sunning himself never mind the towns folk .

Blue Owl wrote:

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:
Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

I think I have seen you in Panto ? Carrying Idle Jack down through the high street on his throne. Sadly unlike panto which is an annual event Idle Jack only seems to appear every for years or so when there are Magic Beans to be gained !

Yes, It twer I, Guilty as Charged, and proud to be a" Conservative" , I agree Iain could be seen more on the ground, but with such a large Rural area to be MP for, I can understand why some people say " where is he"
Well I can assure you he is "Behind You & Us in this District. He will never be a 'Tom King ' Now Lord King. But, even as a District Cllr, you cannot please everyone, as a Chef, at Cellophane many years ago, catering for the Staff and Workers we also could'nt please all, But they soon realised, when Grandmet outside Caterers took over, What they had!!!
Regards Blue-Owl

Well that was an answer that was'nt expected. there's an old phrase about "none so blind" that springs to mind.

Dear me...do you ever read, and take on board the numerous comments about non responses to letters, emails etc ??

If i performed in my job in the same manner I'd be out on my ear !

Well you wouldn't let her lot loose with the council again after the mess they left us in last time and she moans about a bit of rubbish. We will be paying back the liberal debt for years to come around here. They were worse than the labour government. You cant blame her for trying but she is on another planet with the rest of her liberals that left us in ruin. The trouble is they think they know how to run things which is dangerous when they dont have any idea.

jimee wrote:
Well you wouldn't let her lot loose with the council again after the mess they left us in last time and she moans about a bit of rubbish. We will be paying back the liberal debt for years to come around here. They were worse than the labour government. You cant blame her for trying but she is on another planet with the rest of her liberals that left us in ruin. The trouble is they think they know how to run things which is dangerous when they dont have any idea.

Tessa Munt, is a Glamour Puss MP, only interested in her own Political Career, Just wait till the Panto Season comes about in January, before the Burnham / Highbridge Elections, then we will hear, " Who 's behind U" watch out there's. a Ex Cllr. About. Ho! Ho !
Regards Blue -Owl

On my Birthdate today I would like to take this opportunity to wish everyone Seasons Greetings for a Merry Christmas And a Happy New Year,
For 2013, The Forum Contributors have been welcomed, and a pleasure to reply to, even if they don't like the reply, Hear no evil , Speak no Evil, but in the Spirit of things Bridgwater (Backward ) Forward are fair Game, as they contribute little if any thing constructive. !!
Seasons Greeetings Blue-Owl
AKA Ex Cllr David Preece SDC /BTC

orchardman wrote:
You don't need a degree in economics or politics to at least partially remedy the situation:- restore the recycling facility hours and drop charges, particularly for domestic users. Also enforce trade user regulation as, on a number of visits to the Chard facility, it is obvious that 'white van man' is, with the apparent blessing of his mates working on the site, dumping what is obviously trade waste in the domestic area. The cost to the Council of fly-tipping must outweigh any saving made by these restrictions on opening hours.

If you know this practice is going on, for a fact then report it to the District Council, so enforcement can be carried out. After all it's your money that is being lost.
Regards Blue-Owl

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:
Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

I think I have seen you in Panto ? Carrying Idle Jack down through the high street on his throne. Sadly unlike panto which is an annual event Idle Jack only seems to appear every for years or so when there are Magic Beans to be gained !

Yes, It twer I, Guilty as Charged, and proud to be a" Conservative" , I agree Iain could be seen more on the ground, but with such a large Rural area to be MP for, I can understand why some people say " where is he"
Well I can assure you he is "Behind You & Us in this District. He will never be a 'Tom King ' Now Lord King. But, even as a District Cllr, you cannot please everyone, as a Chef, at Cellophane many years ago, catering for the Staff and Workers we also could'nt please all, But they soon realised, when Grandmet outside Caterers took over, What they had!!!
Regards Blue-Owl

Well that was an answer that was'nt expected. there's an old phrase about "none so blind" that springs to mind.

Dear me...do you ever read, and take on board the numerous comments about non responses to letters, emails etc ??

If i performed in my job in the same manner I'd be out on my ear !

In response, to your Comment, If I had not received a response to a letter or email, within say 14 days, I would send a follow- up, either by post or a phone call, or if very urgent a recorded delivery, signed for letter. These Constituants, that make these comments, cannot have such urgent problems, that cannot be addressed by their District Councillor Firstly. Then passed on to the MP if needed to.
Regards Blue-Owl

Blue Owl wrote:

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:
Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

I think I have seen you in Panto ? Carrying Idle Jack down through the high street on his throne. Sadly unlike panto which is an annual event Idle Jack only seems to appear every for years or so when there are Magic Beans to be gained !

Yes, It twer I, Guilty as Charged, and proud to be a" Conservative" , I agree Iain could be seen more on the ground, but with such a large Rural area to be MP for, I can understand why some people say " where is he"
Well I can assure you he is "Behind You & Us in this District. He will never be a 'Tom King ' Now Lord King. But, even as a District Cllr, you cannot please everyone, as a Chef, at Cellophane many years ago, catering for the Staff and Workers we also could'nt please all, But they soon realised, when Grandmet outside Caterers took over, What they had!!!
Regards Blue-Owl

Well that was an answer that was'nt expected. there's an old phrase about "none so blind" that springs to mind.

Dear me...do you ever read, and take on board the numerous comments about non responses to letters, emails etc ??

If i performed in my job in the same manner I'd be out on my ear !

In response, to your Comment, If I had not received a response to a letter or email, within say 14 days, I would send a follow- up, either by post or a phone call, or if very urgent a recorded delivery, signed for letter. These Constituants, that make these comments, cannot have such urgent problems, that cannot be addressed by their District Councillor Firstly. Then passed on to the MP if needed to.
Regards Blue-Owl

"These Constituants, that make these comments, cannot have such urgent problems......." HOW DO YOU KNOW ????

A very predictable response from Blue Ostrich who constantly buries his head in the sand !

Arrogance beyond belief but not unexpected.

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:
Mrs Munt MP for Well, which under the Control of Mendip District Council, is quite clearly Electioneering Herself, as there is to be a By-Election soon in January, for Burnham Highbridge Ward, which has become available as one of Her Personal Hand Picked District Cllrs, and Westminster Political Paid Researchers, has announced his resignation, mid term , to go into Banking,!! seems very strange for a once up and coming Blue -Eyed Boy, who had aspiration of being an MP himself, Lib/ Dem Leader on SDC??
Have we heard the True Story??
As it's the Panto Season Soon, I'm sure all will be revealed . He's BEhind U, oh no he isn't , Oooooh Yes He Is..
I Love A Good Panto Me.

Seasons Greetings Blue-Owl

I think I have seen you in Panto ? Carrying Idle Jack down through the high street on his throne. Sadly unlike panto which is an annual event Idle Jack only seems to appear every for years or so when there are Magic Beans to be gained !

Yes, It twer I, Guilty as Charged, and proud to be a" Conservative" , I agree Iain could be seen more on the ground, but with such a large Rural area to be MP for, I can understand why some people say " where is he"
Well I can assure you he is "Behind You & Us in this District. He will never be a 'Tom King ' Now Lord King. But, even as a District Cllr, you cannot please everyone, as a Chef, at Cellophane many years ago, catering for the Staff and Workers we also could'nt please all, But they soon realised, when Grandmet outside Caterers took over, What they had!!!
Regards Blue-Owl

Well that was an answer that was'nt expected. there's an old phrase about "none so blind" that springs to mind.

Dear me...do you ever read, and take on board the numerous comments about non responses to letters, emails etc ??

If i performed in my job in the same manner I'd be out on my ear !

In response, to your Comment, If I had not received a response to a letter or email, within say 14 days, I would send a follow- up, either by post or a phone call, or if very urgent a recorded delivery, signed for letter. These Constituants, that make these comments, cannot have such urgent problems, that cannot be addressed by their District Councillor Firstly. Then passed on to the MP if needed to.
Regards Blue-Owl

"These Constituants, that make these comments, cannot have such urgent problems......." HOW DO YOU KNOW ????

A very predictable response from Blue Ostrich who constantly buries his head in the sand !

Arrogance beyond belief but not unexpected.

And a typical response from you, windswept and not so interesting, why do people not follow-up, if they think their problem is'nt being Addressed, to their Satisfaction, as a District Councillor, there were some problems that could not be resolved, but, I and fellow Cllrs do their best !!! Which is all any of us could do. It's not Arrogance as you put it!.
So , if you know so much, please tell, or can I accuse you of Arrogance, or ignorance, because obviously you have a higher authority on this matter..
Try posting something, yourself, not just tear apart ,my responses, not that I don't enjoy the Banter.!
Merry Christmas Blue-Owl

Blue (Ostrich) Owl - OK perhaps you would like to give us the benefit of your knowledge.

What recourse do these Constituents, who do not have such urgent problems ( you're word not mine), have when they are not getting responses from or getting ignored by their local elected MP ?

I'm sure you know the answer. I know you are Community spirited so do your bit for the Community and partake of that information. I'm sure the numerous folk that have regularly posted here complaining would be most grateful.

Tis the season to be Jolly after all :)

windswept and interesting wrote:
Blue (Ostrich) Owl - OK perhaps you would like to give us the benefit of your knowledge.

What recourse do these Constituents, who do not have such urgent problems ( you're word not mine), have when they are not getting responses from or getting ignored by their local elected MP ?

I'm sure you know the answer. I know you are Community spirited so do your bit for the Community and partake of that information. I'm sure the numerous folk that have regularly posted here complaining would be most grateful.

Tis the season to be Jolly after all :)

Well, as if you have not already PRE- Dicted my reply, what I said , was if whoever it is has written to their MP, and has not received a response, then they should have Telephoned ILGraingers Sec, Claire. So as to enquire, that the letter had indeed been received, by her on Iain's behalf. That is what , I meant by following up.
If it was already received, then the individual, would normally arrange to speak to or see Iain L G when he is in the Constituancy, ie Bridgwater, which is most Fridays, when he holds his, surgery s @ Northgate.
With regard to the " not So Urgent" ie general enquiries that Constituants might have, it may be that their Local Elected Ward Councillors, may be able to Adress such issues, in the first instance, then involve the Somerset CC Councillors, or upward to the MP.
You, know fully well, what point I was trying to get across,
I, am not in a position to clarify further the individual complaints to which you refer, only that if they are not satisfied, take it further, with ILG.
Regards Blue-Owl

Both of you, Blue Owl and Windswept should be commended for your typically parliamentarian discourse in which you both seek to out-baffle the other.
Absolutely what we, the general public have come to expect from our elected members. Total bull**** whichever way you look and whichever side you're on. All words and no action.

And as for your grammar and such - words fail me! I'd have thought that the pair of you were, or should be, fully versed in the use of the Queen's English and would therefore use punctuation as and where appropriate - and also refrain from flinging in capital letters at random.

Cut our the bickering and admit that neither of you would respond to anybody within 24 hours - and that neither of you have much if any interest in accepting that what Tessa Munt says, needs some attention.

Ignore her interest and the upcoming elections - just accept that it is a problem and try to find a solution. NOW!

souwesterly wrote:
Both of you, Blue Owl and Windswept should be commended for your typically parliamentarian discourse in which you both seek to out-baffle the other.
Absolutely what we, the general public have come to expect from our elected members. Total bull**** whichever way you look and whichever side you're on. All words and no action.

And as for your grammar and such - words fail me! I'd have thought that the pair of you were, or should be, fully versed in the use of the Queen's English and would therefore use punctuation as and where appropriate - and also refrain from flinging in capital letters at random.

Cut our the bickering and admit that neither of you would respond to anybody within 24 hours - and that neither of you have much if any interest in accepting that what Tessa Munt says, needs some attention.

Ignore her interest and the upcoming elections - just accept that it is a problem and try to find a solution. NOW!

You should use a spell checker - people in glass houses....

Apart from my truncated phrase...."All words and no action.", my Spellchecker is perfectly happy, thank you.

Go on - get back to your petty bickering.....throw some more stones....

windswept and interesting wrote:

souwesterly wrote:
Both of you, Blue Owl and Windswept should be commended for your typically parliamentarian discourse in which you both seek to out-baffle the other.
Absolutely what we, the general public have come to expect from our elected members. Total bull**** whichever way you look and whichever side you're on. All words and no action.

And as for your grammar and such - words fail me! I'd have thought that the pair of you were, or should be, fully versed in the use of the Queen's English and would therefore use punctuation as and where appropriate - and also refrain from flinging in capital letters at random.

Cut our the bickering and admit that neither of you would respond to anybody within 24 hours - and that neither of you have much if any interest in accepting that what Tessa Munt says, needs some attention.

Ignore her interest and the upcoming elections - just accept that it is a problem and try to find a solution. NOW!

You should use a spell checker - people in glass houses....

Not that I need such help as a Spellchecker.....I only use it to see if I've made any typographical errors.

souwesterly wrote:
Apart from my truncated phrase...."All words and no action.", my Spellchecker is perfectly happy, thank you.

Go on - get back to your petty bickering.....throw some more stones....

Look again and you will see it is not :)

Goodnight and a Merry Xmas to you.

A perfect response from a frustrated-attempt-a
t-being-an-MP person!
Tell me I'm wrong but don't tell me how I'm wrong!
My Spellchecker is still very happy and so am I!
Happy New Year - may 2013 see the down-throw of those who can't make things happen because they're too pettily tied up.

If all you have to worry about is correct Grammer, and pronunciation , well what a Sad person or Perfectionist u must be, we used to have a District Cllr Labour, who used to go through the Agenda's to find the Spelling error's ( How Sad, was that ) if he had read the Content and discussed the merits Pro or against , would have been of more use, to the reverent matter b4 the Commitee. For myself, I was born an Idiot, and still am, Secondary School Educated, left @ 15, as if you were not taking Gce or Cse, you were thought of as a reject from the System, treated as an idiot and spent the last year @ school doing nothing important to help you with your life skills.
So at 15, I left school worked for my Father in the Family Building Business, set up by my Grandfather and his Brother Uncle Bert, 2 years later, went t WSM Tech, trained as a Chef, for a further Two years, was employed @ British Cellophane for 13 yrs, took redundancy when Grand Met took over the Catering Op. Then spent the next 20 years, as Self Employed Wine Sales, and later as a SW Sales Manager for WIV GmbH Germany's largest Wine producer. Before starting my own Wholesale Wine Distribution Co, in 1997. So, if one drops a Comma here or a semi- colon there or mis spell a word, is it the end 0f the World.!!
No of course not !
What matters is that ,one does there best, as a Coucillor, the renunciation for District Councillor was £ 3.400 .oo per year, For those who want to knock those of us that try to make a difference, how many if you would give up, your time anywhere between 20 -30 hours a week, In the 8 Years I personally never put in any expenses incurred monthly. And remember, Expenses are reimbursements of personal money spent, incurring during the course of a Councillors Duties. How many of you, who criticise us past and serving Cllrs would do the same, !!
Not many I bet, easier to let others do , so you can criticise their good endeavours. So Windswept and Interesting, you think it Ok for Ms Mrs T Munt, to throw Critism, at SCC when it was her Lib Collegues @ County who left the County in such a poor financial state, as did Milliband , Blair, Brown, in Central Govnment.
I note, that you have completely, skipped over the Facts, I posted about Ms T Munts Expenses, and her ex Political Researcher, that has mysteriously stepped out of Politics, surprisingly as he had Such a Promising Career for. Liberal Researcher, on her Payrole, living in her house at times, poss sharing her London home that you and I as Taxpayers are paying for. All you can complain about is lack of diction.
As someone who spent 8 yrs in Local District & Local Politics, I don't need a lecture from you, Thankyou. No Disrespect, but, on what authority do you speak.
Regards Blue-Owl

Blue Owl wrote:
If all you have to worry about is correct Grammer, and pronunciation , well what a Sad person or Perfectionist u must be, we used to have a District Cllr Labour, who used to go through the Agenda's to find the Spelling error's ( How Sad, was that ) if he had read the Content and discussed the merits Pro or against , would have been of more use, to the reverent matter b4 the Commitee. For myself, I was born an Idiot, and still am, Secondary School Educated, left @ 15, as if you were not taking Gce or Cse, you were thought of as a reject from the System, treated as an idiot and spent the last year @ school doing nothing important to help you with your life skills.
So at 15, I left school worked for my Father in the Family Building Business, set up by my Grandfather and his Brother Uncle Bert, 2 years later, went t WSM Tech, trained as a Chef, for a further Two years, was employed @ British Cellophane for 13 yrs, took redundancy when Grand Met took over the Catering Op. Then spent the next 20 years, as Self Employed Wine Sales, and later as a SW Sales Manager for WIV GmbH Germany's largest Wine producer. Before starting my own Wholesale Wine Distribution Co, in 1997. So, if one drops a Comma here or a semi- colon there or mis spell a word, is it the end 0f the World.!!
No of course not !
What matters is that ,one does there best, as a Coucillor, the renunciation for District Councillor was £ 3.400 .oo per year, For those who want to knock those of us that try to make a difference, how many if you would give up, your time anywhere between 20 -30 hours a week, In the 8 Years I personally never put in any expenses incurred monthly. And remember, Expenses are reimbursements of personal money spent, incurring during the course of a Councillors Duties. How many of you, who criticise us past and serving Cllrs would do the same, !!
Not many I bet, easier to let others do , so you can criticise their good endeavours. So Windswept and Interesting, you think it Ok for Ms Mrs T Munt, to throw Critism, at SCC when it was her Lib Collegues @ County who left the County in such a poor financial state, as did Milliband , Blair, Brown, in Central Govnment.
I note, that you have completely, skipped over the Facts, I posted about Ms T Munts Expenses, and her ex Political Researcher, that has mysteriously stepped out of Politics, surprisingly as he had Such a Promising Career for. Liberal Researcher, on her Payrole, living in her house at times, poss sharing her London home that you and I as Taxpayers are paying for. All you can complain about is lack of diction.
As someone who spent 8 yrs in Local District & Local Politics, I don't need a lecture from you, Thankyou. No Disrespect, but, on what authority do you speak.
Regards Blue-Owl

mmmm... I think you have me confused with someone else Blue Owl ? Your comments should be directed at Southwesterly ??

Personally, W & I, I think his comments should be addressed to JobSeekers! With such a strong CV, a decent job is almost guaranteed......
And my comments, Blue Owl, about the grammar were merely an observation, based on the fact that I personally, would generally choose to be represented by someone with a mastery of the Queen's English, regardless of their business acumen and argumentative skills.

"Personally, W & I, I think his comments should be addressed to JobSeekers! With such a strong CV, a decent job is almost guaranteed..."

A masterstroke ! :)

windswept and interesting wrote:

Blue Owl wrote:
If all you have to worry about is correct Grammer, and pronunciation , well what a Sad person or Perfectionist u must be, we used to have a District Cllr Labour, who used to go through the Agenda's to find the Spelling error's ( How Sad, was that ) if he had read the Content and discussed the merits Pro or against , would have been of more use, to the reverent matter b4 the Commitee. For myself, I was born an Idiot, and still am, Secondary School Educated, left @ 15, as if you were not taking Gce or Cse, you were thought of as a reject from the System, treated as an idiot and spent the last year @ school doing nothing important to help you with your life skills.
So at 15, I left school worked for my Father in the Family Building Business, set up by my Grandfather and his Brother Uncle Bert, 2 years later, went t WSM Tech, trained as a Chef, for a further Two years, was employed @ British Cellophane for 13 yrs, took redundancy when Grand Met took over the Catering Op. Then spent the next 20 years, as Self Employed Wine Sales, and later as a SW Sales Manager for WIV GmbH Germany's largest Wine producer. Before starting my own Wholesale Wine Distribution Co, in 1997. So, if one drops a Comma here or a semi- colon there or mis spell a word, is it the end 0f the World.!!
No of course not !
What matters is that ,one does there best, as a Coucillor, the renunciation for District Councillor was £ 3.400 .oo per year, For those who want to knock those of us that try to make a difference, how many if you would give up, your time anywhere between 20 -30 hours a week, In the 8 Years I personally never put in any expenses incurred monthly. And remember, Expenses are reimbursements of personal money spent, incurring during the course of a Councillors Duties. How many of you, who criticise us past and serving Cllrs would do the same, !!
Not many I bet, easier to let others do , so you can criticise their good endeavours. So Windswept and Interesting, you think it Ok for Ms Mrs T Munt, to throw Critism, at SCC when it was her Lib Collegues @ County who left the County in such a poor financial state, as did Milliband , Blair, Brown, in Central Govnment.
I note, that you have completely, skipped over the Facts, I posted about Ms T Munts Expenses, and her ex Political Researcher, that has mysteriously stepped out of Politics, surprisingly as he had Such a Promising Career for. Liberal Researcher, on her Payrole, living in her house at times, poss sharing her London home that you and I as Taxpayers are paying for. All you can complain about is lack of diction.
As someone who spent 8 yrs in Local District & Local Politics, I don't need a lecture from you, Thankyou. No Disrespect, but, on what authority do you speak.
Regards Blue-Owl

mmmm... I think you have me confused with someone else Blue Owl ? Your comments should be directed at Southwesterly ??

Thankyou for bringing my Mis Quote to my Attention, it was indeed Southwesterly, that I was indeed addressing my Comment towards and in response to the post made, So , Southwesterly would wish to be represented by some one 'Wot Spoke Proper Queens English'.
Well, one is sorry that one only went to a secondary School, and left without being Taught Properly by those Teachers, who were paid to do so!
But, having gained a far better Education, from Life, in Gainful Employment since the Age of 15 years, the Echo, in my ears as I left Westover, He will never amount to anything, mean little to me now or then.
The points I was addressing were that it is the Content, not the Grammer, or Diction, that is important.
Let me guess, were you ever a Teacher?Southwesterl
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Regards Blue-Owl